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What's going on Maximal Beings, Doc Mok here. We've talked for years about having guests back on the show. But today we have the honor of having Chris Burres with My VitalC. So Chris, how have you been doing since we chatted almost a year ago? And what's new with you and your company?
Christopher Burres 1:08
Well, first of all, thanks for having me back. I feel honored that I'm one apparently of the few who have actually returned. We were already riffin before we started. So this is just gonna be a whole lot of fun and cool. I'll say medical information. But we have like one medical professional here. So let's be clear about that not to
Doc Mok 1:31
Two science scientifically-minded individuals with your engineering background. And yeah, so.
Christopher Burres 1:36
Absolutely. And I certainly am diving into the literature. You know, one of the pieces of our conversation before we got started is like how much medical information is out there. And in a very real, like, I have the sense that you're like an information. I once had somebody on one of my teams like you have to be an information whore to work at this company. You just have to be like love information and absorb, I feel like you probably have a little bit of that. And
Doc Mok 2:03
Yes
Christopher Burres 2:03
So interestingly your area of practice is very focused. So there might be less information available like less new information on a day to day basis. I'm over here drowning without your background, right without your specific medical background, trying to absorb like a much broader base of information. So it is overwhelming and and it's exciting. Like every day I get up, you probably hear it in my voice. I ended up writing a book, Live Longer and Better. I just did a summit with, I got to interview 55 experts in longevity, including some like heavy hitters like Ben Greenfield, a Dave Asprey, the father of biohacking and the creator of Bulletproof coffee. And then Dr. Dr. Steven Gundry, a former practicing thoracic heart surgeon, like who who leaves that career.
Doc Mok 2:58
And his book is amazing, even in the recipes at the end of it are fantastic too. So
Christopher Burres 3:03
Yeah, I in the middle of pandemic, when everybody was gaining weight, I got on Gundry's diet and lost 20 pounds. Right.
Doc Mok 3:11
Awesome. Look at you.
Christopher Burres 3:12
I had pushed, I push the highest I've ever been and, and frankly, some of this is full transparency. Some of it was I just needed to force myself to reset, because I have twins and I was in the habit of finishing their food. Right like at a restaurant and they've got half a burger left. Well, somebody should eat that burger. No,
Doc Mok 3:34
Right. Can't let it go to waste, right. Yeah
Christopher Burres 3:37
I gotta I gotta show them. Look, you can't let it go to waste, but I can't eat anything. Okay, I guess that means I gotta eat it. I got it.
Doc Mok 3:44
And for those of you out there that are just listening. Chris Burres is a lean, mean, C60 Loaded, fighting machine. This guy is like he is ready to rock. This guy looks young and fit. So he practices what he preaches. So just throwing it out there for the listeners. Yeah,
Christopher Burres 4:00
Yeah, thank you. It's, I bumped into, you know how you bumped into friends, you know, maybe even 20 that you haven't seen in 20 years and one of them was like, Man, you look really good. And I said I better because I'm working my butt off.
Doc Mok 4:14
It is a full time job, you know?
Christopher Burres 4:16
Exactly. So yeah, exciting things and new information, lots to share with people. I'm actually speaking at a Biohacking Conference in Austin. I'm not speaking individually. I'm on a panel at Biohackers World in Austin this weekend. So we're leaving tomorrow for that. And then the next event that we're going to is Dave Asprey's Biohacking Conference in Dallas, and we're gonna have a booth up there. So just so many amazing things going on, like circle and so, so glad to be back here.
Doc Mok 4:49
That's fantastic. And, and I thank you for your time either the last time we were kind of like interfacing in the same geographic location, which never happens. I was heading to a conference near you and you're there. And you know, I feel like the next time I'm down there, we definitely have to meet up like that would undoubtably. Yes. And I must read before I before we meet up, Live Longer and Better. Talk to me about the journey of what inspired you to write this book and, and what the listeners should take away as kind of the key notes going in before we dive into a deeper conversation.
Christopher Burres 5:27
Yeah, let me let me, I'll start with what I really hope the readers will take away, which is a newer vision for health and longevity, right. And I've got some really interesting stats coming out of the, well, let's just go down that path. So let me let me I'll go all the way back to the molecule. So I'm holding up a molecule, if you're listening, don't worry, just imagine a soccer ball, I'm not holding up a molecule, I'm holding up a model of a molecule. Imagine a soccer ball. And and the lines on the soccer ball represent the bonds between the carbon atoms. So this molecule was discovered in 1985. And the three scientists who discovered this molecule won the Nobel Prize in 1996. By the way, all of this is in the book Live Longer and Better and all of this story. And so the molecule is amazing. It performs as well or better than the current best materials and almost every application, so it makes better inks, better batteries, better tires, better photo cells, I thought this was a medical conversation what's going on? Right? Like, no one in the history of the world is that like, see that car battery over there? I wonder what components of that car battery I should be consuming every day. And the story, you know, as you know, gets a little bit worse. First, they thought the molecule would be toxic. So different shapes on the exterior of the soccer ball molecule, by the way, we call it ESS60. Different shapes are reminiscent to benzene, benzene is a known toxin, a known carcinogen. And so they thought it would be toxic, and they threw it in a toxicity study. So it turns out my lab provided the material, my lab's actually mentioned in the results of that study, and that peer reviewed published research, and instead of being toxic the test subjects that they gave it to and for transparency there Wistar rats, they lived 90% longer than the control group. So you've got the single longest longevity experimental results in history. And as peer reviewed published research, so this was kind of the transition from me being a happy go lucky carbon and a material scientist, yes, they exist. And one of them, maybe there's only two, my business partner the is the is the is the other one, or at least another one. And that shifted us kind of down this longevity and health path. And so we have this amazing story of this molecule that we were there in the beginning. And it was actually fairly recently that it dawned on me that my business partner and I are in part responsible for the three scientists winning the Nobel Prize. And here, here's my logic, and I'm sure it's debatable. But the logic is, we started manufacturing the molecule and selling it to research institutions around the world in 1991, they won the Nobel Prize in '96 they discovered it in '85. Right, so six years after they discovered it, we're we come on the scene and start delivering it. So scientists can add, in quantities big enough that scientists can actually do research on it. So now you're like, Whoa, okay. Theoretically, this was amazing. When we were playing with, you know, microscopic quantities, it was amazing. And now we can actually get our hands on stuff and, and confirm, it's actually amazing. So so we're there from the beginning. That's already an amazing story that probably deserves a book and in fact, there's a book called The Most Beautiful Molecule, which covers through to really the discovery in the Nobel Prize, right? And then we keep taking this and we're delivering it to research institutions around the world. We we put it in, we end up with our material in the study, longevity results. 90% extension of life. And now that sends us in a whole different trajectory. Like my first goal is like, well, is a 90% extension of life a big deal, right, you know, but I kind of thought so I'd never been to a GNC and saw, you know, 30% extension of life or 50% extension life, or
Doc Mok 9:28
You're gonna go through Yeah, right.
Christopher Burres 9:29
Yeah. Right. Like, it's never been marketed. So it probably doesn't exist. Like that's just probably true. And so we started digging in, and it turns out, you know, the next best way or the best way in terms of quantity of research to live longer, is calorie restriction. If you reduce your calorie consumption by 30%, you can extend extend your life by 30%. That's the that's the bar right? So we've got to study at 90% and then 30% is the next so, right now as I'm digging into this longevity space, I'm starting to understand or over some time have been coming to understand that the medical community is kind of shifting their mindset, like one of the shifts, is that you can live a lot healthier a lot longer. Or maybe we're getting some things wrong, right are like the, the number I read was 20% of your life is in some sort of decline. Nobody's happy about that. I don't think doctors aren't happy about that. And, and, and we're kind of realizing that there are solutions to this. And not only that, if you go into really cutting edge people, they're like, listen, we could potentially live forever, we could eradicate these diseases of aging, we can, you know, replace body parts, if that's the solution, if we can't find the levers to make your heart younger, again, we're going to be able to grow your own heart in a dish somewhere and then stick your own heart back in your own, you know, not back in, into your own body. I think I saw something they were growing, I think kidney parts on the exterior of people. And they're actually working doing the job of the kidney and it's like hanging off of his knee because it
Doc Mok 11:11
They they've also been able to build, you know, different organs on these kind of infrastructures using 3D printers and different stem cells sort of products, which is just fantastic. As far as the ability to transplant those into human being, you know that that is still pending. And I think a lot of the newer transplant data, things like uterine transplants have been not as successful as we would like them to be. So I think we still have advancements.
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You know one of the things we should talk about is if you could live forever, right? What about the quality of life during that timeframe? Because that that is most important, right is not just the amount of time but the quality of your life that you have. And yes, replacing organs would help, but does your molecule, could it could it help these rats in the study to live a good life during that extra 90%, I wonder?
Christopher Burres 14:37
Well, one of the things, and of course this is a little bit tongue in cheek but I do there was there was no notation in the original study that the rats were walking around with, you know little rat walkers and little rat tanks. Yeah,
Doc Mok 14:49
Rat quality of life scores.
Christopher Burres 14:53
They were off the charts.
Doc Mok 14:54
Yeah
Christopher Burres 14:55
Just the chart is like it's alive or it's dead. So it's
Doc Mok 14:57
Right exactly how much cheese did you get? How many times you get to run around in a week.
Christopher Burres 15:03
So So you know, ostensibly, at first first thing, it opens the door, right? And then you start looking at like a Dr. David Sinclair out of Harvard University. His book is lifespan, why be age and why we don't have to. And you start, you know, I at least, started buying into this, okay, to the concept that it's possible, right? You're, you're right, like, are we throwing you doing? Well, is it in utero or you're talking about a uterine transplant?
Doc Mok 15:30
Yeah like the transplant of a uterus into a person. Yeah.
Christopher Burres 15:33
At first. So yeah, that's not working. But we can solve that. Like, there's, I think that those are things that are solvable. And I'll and I gave you this stat, which you were probably aware of, before I mentioned it to you. If you think about how much medical information there is, in 1950, medical information doubled every 50 years, that's five zero years. Today, it doubles every 73 days. Right?
Doc Mok 15:57
Yeah.
Christopher Burres 15:57
And in reality, that number doesn't really take into consideration AI yet, right. So 73 days is a number, I think it's at least 3-4-6, whatever. Now we're folding AI into these things. And, and I've had some kind of whatever I'll say philosophical conversations with myself, about like, maybe AI doesn't expand at the amount of information. But we, we know that AI is going in and honing in on particular, drug opportunities faster and without having to do real testing, right? Like it's able to, it's able to improve the quality of the work. So not only are we doubling every 73 days, with AI, the quality of that doubling is going to increase. And ironically, I did an AI calculation in 10 years at this, and you know, exponential growth, right? 50 years at in 1950. And then 73 days today, it's like it's gonna double every 15 minutes. Right? So if you think it's possible and right, like, we think that you can translate a uterus, otherwise, no one would be trying it at all right? Right. It's going to be possible, right? Because we're just we're just the information is growing. So unbelievably fast. And, and so now, you've got this, this quantum shift in the medical community about, hey, we can probably live a lot longer, right? And, and certainly, there's no value in living longer if we don't live better, right? If we don't, then the number I heard was 20% of our life is in some sort of decline. We don't we don't want that. The best analogy for I think the lifespan that most people would like, that I found is a candle, right? A candle burns just the same from start all the way to the finish. And then this, you know .1% of the candle, it just extinguish the flame gets a little bit smaller and dies, I think, I think that's what everybody's interpretation of how they'd like to pass is right. Like, you just want to make sure you're not a burden on those around you. So so the takeaway that I would like from the book is a shift how you're thinking about it, there's a thing called the escape velocity of aging. And I think the first time I heard of this was in life force, which is a Tony Robbins and Peter Diamandis book. And the concept is, at some point, for every day we're alive, the medical community will be able to extend life by slightly more than a day. And when that happens, right, with some caveats on the different things that the medical community is solving, eventually, we'll get to the point where no one will die of natural causes. In fact, at some point, there will be one person who will be the last person to die of natural causes and you like you don't want it like you don't want to be that well, he won't know. Right? Because he won't be.
Doc Mok 18:46
And I also, yeah, I also don't know that anybody does die of natural causes. And it's just an unknown medical condition that, you know, I think that it's just not diagnosed, or the only way to do that is with a real time monitor, and autopsy really, you know, so,
Christopher Burres 19:03
Yeah, I think you make the point that that David Sinclair was making is like, we just lumped these things into into old age. And a lot of his book was about a lobbying the medical community to say, well, let's talk about what we currently say as old age, as a disease because currently the medical community doesn't think it's disease, it thinks it's inevitable. And his point is, you know, we've got funding for Alzheimer's and cardiovascular disease and, and arthritis, all of these classic diseases of aging, also inflammation. Right.
Doc Mok 19:39
And cancer, for sure.
Christopher Burres 19:40
And cancer. Yeah.
Doc Mok 19:41
Most of the time. Yeah.
Christopher Burres 19:43
They're all funded separately. But if you solve it, like a lot of us are like, hey, if we just solve cancer, you know, our life is our lives are going to be so much longer. No, I think it's another four and a half years or something. Because the next disease of age is going to like the jump in and take care of that. So his lobbying and that's another goal for me from this book is, hey, let's, let's change our understanding of aging. Let's address aging because aging if we can actually address it, and I there's good arguments for that, can really address all of those things. Because the biggest factor for most of the diseases that I just mentioned is age. Right? Like, yeah, there's extenuating factors obesity, and, and whatever. But age is, is the dominant one, I believe. Right.
Doc Mok 20:31
That's ultimately what we're all trying to do is prolong life, avoid pain, seek pleasure, right, that that may be at the core of what it is to be human. And we want to do that for as long as possible. Right. So yeah, so that is aging with grace. Yeah
Christopher Burres 20:46
In a bright candle flame, as bright candle flame for the whole period of time. So so that's really the goal of the book. I jump into the story, which is amazing. You know, we talk about some of the benefits that people report when they take MyVitalC the most consistent testimonials, people take it in the morning. They report mental focus and energy during the day, and then better sleep that night. And then you and I had a conversation about the the skincare copy just sent us some more of those. Which, which is
Doc Mok 21:17
Can we asked
Christopher Burres 21:18
Yeah
Doc Mok 21:19
Yeah, I was gonna say, can we pause there because, you know, I think the last time that you're on over a year ago, at that time, we reviewed the medical literature very extensively. And in humans, the most conclusive data was on skincare and it did show significant benefits in terms of wrinkle lines. And that was more of a you know, microbiopsy sort of study. But I will say anecdotally that I personally saw benefit while I was taking it, and again, I greatly appreciate the fact that you're willing to share that with me and Jacky P, I mean, Jacky P already looks very young. So he must have been wearing a bonnet and with a binkie in his mouth, but I will say I did note the benefits that were qualitatively better and so we're talking about the benefit of now you have like going back to AI, you can utilize AI to facial map people and the value that MyVitalC may be considering to do something in that in that space.
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Christopher Burres 24:11
I am a scientist at my core and so I've got nothing more than a desire to you know, is because our most consistent testimonial involves sleep, I ended up in a in a conversation with Dr. Benjamin Smarr, no, Professor Benjamin Smarr, he's at the University of California San Diego. Actually, today was the first note I sent to him in years because I'm interviewing one of his colleagues tomorrow for a podcast and he was a a consultant for Aura ring right. Aura ring the great sleep that one of the best sleep trackers that's out there. And so we started this kind of study and then the pandemic hit and and the ring is actually pretty good at identifying COVID And so he just disappeared as you can imagine busy with research and and PR stuff. But we kept that study going and we really have run 12 people through an on an off on off on survey study, which is Hey, about sleep a how is your sleep? Qualitatively? You know, how, how good was your sleep? How do you feel when you wake up? How restless, how quickly did you fall asleep, and they give us that data for 10 days prior to taking the product, 10 days on the product, 10 days off the product, and then 10 days back on the product. And universally when they're on the product, they report better sleep, right? So so this is at least, you know, to go do a sleep study is so expensive, right? We're just we're just not there. We do have plans and I and this was probably true a year ago, and we're slowly moving in that direction. To recreate that original rat study. That's, that's something that it's expensive, right? Because it's a five plus years of study
Doc Mok 25:55
And all the regulations too, you know, and there's no research money out there, ladies and gentlemen anymore, it is gone. Like it is almost impossible to get money for anything nowadays so.
Christopher Burres 26:06
Yeah so we're gonna have to self fund it. And one of the things about animal studies, which I didn't know, kind of going into this conversation, or into into the conversation about doing that study, is you have to pay upfront, because from an ethical perspective, they don't want you to get halfway into a study, run out of money, and then euthanize all these animals for no benefit, right? Like, there is a board that's looking at these types of decisions. And so it's got to be funded upfront. So so yeah, I'm, I'm interested in your idea about doing some face analysis software. That's genius. So I'll be crediting you in perpetuity as that as that come as that comes out. But, um,
Doc Mok 26:46
It's gratis for about, you know, giving value to our audience. So, so thank you, actually.
Christopher Burres 26:53
All right, and I do want to pick your brain, right, because I've got, yeah, I've got you, I, I'm 54. When I turned 50, my mom got me a t-shirt that said, look, I'm all grown up, and it's time for me to get a colonoscopy. Right. It was, of course, a dark black, a black shirt. You know, I haven't gotten around to it. And that's just bad. I know that I went back to my practitioner, for my yearly checkup. And, um, and like it just read, read, give me the referral, right. So I can go get that taken care of. And right at the time, and actually, I called the set it up, and the system it hadn't been put in, so they couldn't get me signed up. And at that point, I interviewed somebody for a podcast, and they kind of pointed out, you know, when you get a colonoscopy, they just literally gut, pun intended, gut your your microbiome, like they just you're totally flushed out is kind of the the image that you have. And when I did this longevity summit, I basically asked 55 experts saying you have an area of expertise, does the gut biome have anything to do with it? And the answer was, yes. And like you have another area of expertise that seems unrelated. It's like rheumatoid arthritis. How important is the gut biome for that, ah, it's really, really important. And so it scared me in. So I'd like to get your opinion, like, maybe I should just do Cologuard, right, like, that's just a fecal test, and they can do an example. But apparently, a colonoscopy has, I think, two advantages. It's more accurate. And if they find something, they can take it out while they're, while they're there. Am I way off base here? Like what's your, what's your that? So
Doc Mok 28:39
I think so many things. So number one, it is a great time in this universe to be in the poop business. Because like that is like what people are talking about, I know that the longevity people want to talk about, hey, the heart is important and sleep is important. But like, you know, the gut microbiome is really a very important organ because it links up with your neurologic system, your vascular system, your immune system, it is the second largest immune organ in the human body. Right? And, and we have this crosstalk between these trillions of micro organisms, and ourselves. And the interactions are very complex, and they're exceptionally dependent upon the individual and the circumstances for which that individual grew up. And until now, with the invention of AI, we were unable to interpret these trillions of metadata that we obtained from fecal samples, right? Because who can do that? Who has the time to do that? So that said, yes, the microbiome is exceptionally important for longevity. And there are some data looking at that I came across several systematic reviews, you know, most of which are in human subjects early on looking at, you know, just really analyzing the data of people that are at different age levels, different levels of athleticism, and they do find substantial differences based upon age, most notably, we had talked about this divert diversity right that, that is the big thing. So switching gears, so does a colonoscopy alter your gut microbiome, it does to some degree, most things do, right? If you get on a plane now and traveled to see me, it's going to be different. If you eat something different tomorrow, your gut microbiome will change to some degree. And so when people take a bowel preparation, it does make some changes, it kind of like, dials it down, or turns the volume from like a 10, down to like a 4. But those bacteria are still in there. And we see that, we see them in several situations. So we see biofilms. So these are kind of like these little hints that bacteria will bacteria and yeast and fungi, and parasites will set up in the gut to protect themselves from stimuli like this, we can wash them off, but they will stay there. And we see this in the situation of C Diff colitis, which is kind of where a lot of the microbiome data originated from was fecal transplantation, for C Diff colitis. So C diff is this bad bacteria that lives inside of us. And when we wipe out the good guys, when we napalm that little houses that our happy microbiome lives in, these bad guys set up shop and they take over the neighborhood, and then you have the neighborhood falls to stuff, you know, and you have a bad neighborhood. But when we do colonoscopy, even though somebody's prepped for a day, two days, we still see these pseudo membranes that the C Diff bacteria sets up. And so we know the microbiome is still there. So it doesn't wipe it out. It just dials it down. And so after your colonoscopy when you get yours, if you're creating yeah, you create a, you create a favorable environment for these bacteria to thrive in, these good bacteria will continue to grow and live and be happy. But if your first meal after is something fast food and gross, you're going to start to upregulate or turn the dial up on the bad guys. And you may feel some sort of symptoms, that time afterwards. I will also say this about the different ways we can diagnose colon cancer. And this is an aside and totally out of the scope of C60 and longevity, kinda. But when I was a fellow, that was when fecal based colon cancer screening techniques were published in the New England Journal of Medicine. And we reviewed that at a journal club, I remember. So that's where like a bunch of nerdy doctors get together, you had, you'd have some sort of food. And you talk about why an article is so good, bad
Christopher Burres 32:33
Is it fast food? It was probably fast food.
Doc Mok 32:37
Not for this guy, but but maybe for the other people. So. But when we're reviewing that particular article, one of the things to note is that they touted as being 92% specific at detecting colon cancer. But what they don't say is that they miss 8% of colon cancers with that test. If I'm that eight out of 100 people, I don't want you to miss that. And so yeah, yeah, so the benefit of a test like that is that it gets people that otherwise are scared or icky-ed out, from getting a colonoscopy to come and see us and do something. And when it's positive, inevitably, you will find something, whether it be a big polyp, whether it be a cancer, but it does miss things. And I can tell you personally, because we do data analysis is a quality metric, that in my hands, I'm not going to miss your colon cancer. I will not. And in fact, we may be able to remove it if it's in an early stage endoscopically and you keep your colon. So get a colonoscopy.
Christopher Burres 33:50
Yes, for
Doc Mok 33:51
For too long. Yeah, so let's get back to live well,
Christopher Burres 33:54
We're just justified follow up on that. One, it's, I find it amazing, you know, the the concept of, you know, decimating really your gut biome and then and then you know, starting it with, let's just keep fried chicken, right? And then that's going to be the bad, bad gut bugs, right? When I've cut sugar out, you know, aggressively my my cravings go away, right, like so. So there really is this amazing communication that is happening between the gut biome and again, this just was repeated over and over and over again, in the in the longevity summit that I did, like, yeah, this gut biome is important if you get it right, it helps you, you know, and we talked briefly about fecal transplants. This is this amazing stuff. But but yeah, so should I do both? should I do Cologuard And a colonoscopy, which is a conversation JP was expecting to hear when he joined.
Doc Mok 34:52
Yeah, yeah. So everybody welcome to the podcast. Jacky P, glad to have him. We always love him through it. You know? Dialing down my nerdiness factor. So welcome. Great to see you.
Jacky Homme 35:03
Hello everyone. I'm sorry, I'm sure these two big brain nerds probably went way into, way into the jargon. The last 30 seconds I just heard I could tell Chris was already in his element. I am so sorry for being late. I had a day. You know, that's not important. I'm here. Chris, you look great. Looks like you lost a couple years off the age. So it looks like the vital that VitalC is working.
Christopher Burres 35:29
Thank you. Thank you.
Doc Mok 35:31
And for those of you out there, like this is not just Jacky P's job like Jacky P is a full time dad, he has a full time job and runs a company like this he just does this because he feels bad for me, I think but
Jacky Homme 35:43
No, no
Doc Mok 35:44
This is for, we're lucky to have him here.
Jacky Homme 35:46
If there was a way I could pay my bills doing this, I'll tell you I'd be happy. Right. So anyone listening out there, Joe Rogan, all these big podcast folks, pick us up? I think we've got something going on here.
Doc Mok 35:58
Get both Cologuard and a colonoscopy? No, I don't think you need that. I mean, I would say that if you don't have time, don't want to do the colonoscopy, get something done. But if you're going to get the best thing, it's still a colonoscopy because it's all, it's diagnostic and it's therapeutic, you know, colon cancer, if you don't have genetic conditions that set you up for rapid growth, like Lynch syndrome, who is at MD Anderson, the Lynch family is all based there in Houston in your backyard. But if you don't have that environment, it's a slow game. And so that's why screening works for colon cancers because over 10 years, a polyp will grow and turn into a cancer. And so if you intervene at times before it does that, you get rid of that process and you're able to heal and start new and that is why it is better than a fecal base test.
Christopher Burres 36:54
Okay, awesome.
Doc Mok 36:56
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